02 September 2019

Using CPF-OA as a High-Yield Savings Account

Property is really expensive in Singapore. For most, buying a home is pretty ingrained as a basic need to establish a family. So it is often the case that we would tap on our CPF as a source of cash to fund the purchase of a house.

We are poor savers, by and large, particularly at the tender ages of 20's to 30's. Being new in our career, with a salary at its lowest point, and yet filled with floords of commitments and distractions. Plus, we're probably dead silly in the way we manage our money anyway.

So we raid our CPF-OA (Ordinary Account) to help fund a huge chunk of the property purchase and continue to ride on our CPF-OA to pay the consequent installments. And we thank the gahmen for forcing us to compulsorily contribute to this. Over time, it can be a really huge chunk that we take out of our CPF-OA.

Now, there is actually no requirement to pay it back, unless we sell away our property. It remains optional to pay back what we took, plus accrued interest, otherwise. And so we never have to if we don't wish to, till the day we kaput (transit to the netherworld).

So here's an idea:

Suppose you are already past 55 years of age, and you have fully funded the Full or Enhanced Retirement Sum (FRS/ERS) into the CPF-RA (Retirement Account).  And because you have achieved FIRE, you are happily retired, drawing a passive income that is generated from a range of investment instruments. Well done! Being the studious hack that you are, you are looking for ways to manage this cash flow generation.

Suppose you generate $50,000 a year, but you only require $4,000 a month to cover monthly expenses.  Instead of keeping the remaining $46,000 for the rest of the year in cash in a bank savings account at a pathetic savings interest rate, what if you do a voluntary cash refund of CPF savings used for housing into your CPF?  The money goes into your CPF-OA where it earns 2.5% (or whatever prevailing rate). But because these are excess over the fully funded FRS/ERS, we can request to withdraw anytime, any number of times, as you're already post-55. So we can gradually withdraw $4,000 per month thereafter. Rinse and repeat.

Now, 2.5% (or whatever it may be) is pretty much risk-free and not to be scoffed at.

Is this workable?  Any catch?

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This is what the CPF website says:


You can refund any amount, capped at the full principal amount you have withdrawn for the property with the accrued interest. Please complete the Application to make cash refund of CPF savings used for property (HSD/VR) (PDF, 0.4MB) and enclose a cheque/cashier's order in favour of 'CPF Board' for the amount you want to refund.

Mail both the form and the cheque/cashier’s order to:

Central Provident Fund Board
Housing Schemes Department
Robinson Road
P.O. Box 3060
Singapore 905060

Alternatively, you can deposit the cheque/cashier's order and the form at any of the CPF service centres.

The refund will be made to your CPF account within 7 working days from the receipt of your cheque/cashier's order (subject to fund clearance). 

I don't understand why they still go with cheque though. *shrug*

11 comments:

CreateWealth8888 said...

You can only refund your housing loan and accrued interests before reaching 55

Anonymous said...

Any withdrawal from CPF (even if one dollar), will be from the the highest interest part (SA) of your CPF first and not from your OA.

Lizardo said...

Oh darned, there goes this idea. *heh*

Anonymous said...

Hi Lizardo,

I missed this post. I have to clarify that one can still refund CPF money used for your home purchase AFTER 55 yo.

I have done it.

Regards
"Adam"

CreateWealth8888 said...

We can only refund to CPF OA after 55 if we still have any outstanding housing loan. For those who cleared their housing loan before 55, if you to refund your housing loan, then do it before 55

Anonymous said...

For my case, we purchased our condo 11 years ago and paid for it in full using a combination of cash & money from our OA. We didnt take any bank loan.

Last few years, we slowly returned money to our OA even after we turned 55 yo. As of last year, we fully returned back all the money we took out from our OA.

To answer Lizardo, as long as your CPF shows you have money used from your OA for property purchase, you can return money to your CPF at any age even after 55 yo.

"Adam"

Lizardo said...

Aha! Looks like this idea is possible after all!

Anonymous said...

假如年齡未到七十,而退休戶口(OA)还未达法定顶限(24万),还是可以填補OA的。

Anonymous said...

You can use Housing Refund to deposit cash into OA after 55 BUT when you want to withdraw, it will be from CPF SA first. End up deposit into a 2% interest account but withdraw from a 4% interest account. So may not be worth it. For those without any SA, then is worth it.

Anonymous said...

However, CPF webpage seems to say that if you had taken housing grant, then when you do housing refund, it goes into SA first. Can someone confirm? If so, then at least it works for this scenario

Lizardo said...

Anon (12 Sep 19),
I'm afraid I'm pretty hopeless with my Chinese. Sorry.

Anon (31 May 20; 6:09pm),
Yes, indeed.

Anon (31 May 20, 6:12pm),
I don't get why it goes into SA first if the loan was serviced from OA in the first place. Perhaps there're some circumstances to this that you are missing? Or, you are under 55, and your SA has not achieved FRS yet? Best to enquire CPF directly. They are helpful and will respond to online enquiries. Just give them a few days and they will get back to you.